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Brake pads - what else had the same shape?

 
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Colin T



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Brake pads - what else had the same shape? Reply with quote

I've just bought some brake pads from eBay which were advertised as 'Allegro'. They look like the right shape but have wires for a wear indicator, would these then fit the Metro? And would they still fit my Allegro?

Also, does anybody know what other cars used the same shape discs? Metro, Mini, Maxi etc, maybe other makes too?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt they'd fit the Mini, due to the different hub sizes. I don't think the Metro had wear indicators either... I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, maybe Ambassador or Maestro then?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Colin,

Allegro pads are the same as a Maxi, and were also listed (by some manufacturers) for some Fords, Volvos, and Peugeots. As far as I can see none of these cars had pad wear indicators fitted. Definitely not Metro (of which there were two types) or Ambassador, Princess, Maestro, or Mini.

Are you absolutely sure they are exactly the same shape as an Allegro pad?

Is there a manufacturer's part number on them or the box, as I may be able to cross reference the number?

As stated above, although Allegro type pads are interchangable with certain vehicles, you can never be certain that the pad material was exactly the same or similar. Certainly I have used Ford branded pads in my Allegro but I am fairly certain they were 'harder'.

The original pads would have been made with Asbestos, which in many ways was far better, but you are unlikely to find any now and I believe it is illegal to sell them anyway.

Merv.
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Colin T



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mervyn

I have checked the shape with the ones on the car and they are exactly the same. The part number on the box is Simer (the manufacturer) 109, and it also shows that the equivalent Ferodo number is FDB820. A quick google search of the Ferodo number shows that they might be for a Volvo 360, but a couple of search results isn't much to go on.

These are asbestos free, and so I assume are the pads that are currently on the car as those are not from the factory. The rear shoes are original though so probably do contain it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Colin,

I have tried to cross reference the numbers you have, without success, but certainly the same part number as an Allegro is listed under Volvo by one pad manufacturer. It may be that Volvo introduced pad wear sensors, but these are often 'cut off' when not needed.

I can see no reason, other than that already mentioned, why they cannot be used on an Allegro.

All the best,

Merv.
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Colin T



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did cut the wires off, but there was room for two new pads on the passenger's side but not on the driver's side, which was odd. This is commented on my other thread about the juddering.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the parts list, there were three types of brake pad an old type for 1100/1300 cars without servos, which was replaced by a new type for those, and a third type for all other cars. Maybe these had differences in hardness.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The early Hyundai Pony used the same pad also, it was developed from the Marina!
The wear indicators may be for the Pony??
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also Capri or Cortina??!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HYUNDAI-PONY-1-3-1-5-85-89-FRONT-BRAKE-PADS-OE-QUALITY-/290459444451?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM
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